I
caught up with one of
the friendliest Men on
the scene at the moment,
the lovely Anthony from
Five O'Clock Heroes,
this is what he had to
say for himself.....
Why did you move to New
York?
I moved to New York in
about 2000, because the
music scene at the time
in England had gone
pretty sour cause there
wasn't any Indie bands
really doing anything.
The only reason I moved
to New York really was
because I had a brother
there, but there was a
good scene coming out in
New York with The
Strokes there and The
Yeah Yeah Yeahs so it
was all pretty
interesting and I felt
there was more going on
over there than over
here.
So
did everything happen in
America and then you
came over here?
Well I met the bass
player and guitar player
over there around the
same time. It was a very
sort of fruitful time to
be in a band I thought.
Everybody had a sense of
optimism; everybody
wanted to play music, so
I think The Stokes and
people sort of opened
the door a little bit
for musicians in that
genre. Bands like The
Bravery were starting at
the same time, and
playing the same venues
as we did, and came up
the same way it was
pretty good.
So what's the story
of the band getting
together then?
Well Elliot and Nado I
met in New York, we were
kinda friends before we
started playing
together. They were in
different bands, I was
in another band, and
then Patrick was the
last member to join. The
only reason he joined
was because we had a big
long tour booked in the
UK with The Bravery,
Brendan Benson and The
Paddingtons but our
drummer had visa
problems and he couldn't
do the long tour in the
UK. . So for that reason
we had to find a drummer
within 24 hours, and got
Patrick who just worked
in the pub. So within
about 3 hours he was in
rehearsal with us. We
had one rehearsal with
him that was about 4
hours long, and he
learnt about 6-7 songs
and that night we played
the first show in Hull.
He learnt the other
songs in the sound
check. 40 shows later we
were on fire! We were
lucky to find him as he
blended in perfectly.
So
you threw him in the
deep end straight on
tour!
Yeah well we're a band
that essentially has to
fight for everything we
have because we're not
really signed on a big
level, we don't really
have an enormous amount
of resources on every
level. We tour in a
transit van. It's a
pretty straight forward
game, but at the same
time when you've got no
money to help you out, I
think you have to sort
of adapt and just sort
of be quite versatile to
the situation and
resourceful. If you're
not resourceful it'll
just crush you, you
could just give up
before you've even
started. But I think
that's something we're
never gonna do, as I
think we're quite
determined. Not
determined from a fame
perspective but just to
sort of achieve certain
goals. I think we're all
pretty realistic about
it, and take every step
at a time.
Can you imagine your
second album being a
completely different
direction to the debut
like some bands do?
Well with us it's
difficult because of
money again we never had
the time, the chance to
sit down and digest what
we were recording as it
was money. We recorded
our album in 5 days, and
we just didn't have that
much time to thaw it
out, because we
rehearsed a hell of a
lot, we played live a
hell of a lot and then
we just went in there
and just thought right
this is what we want to
do. I think if we were
given the opportunity to
do a second album, I
don't think we would
second-guess what we
would do, I think we
would just do it
naturally. We wouldn't
go crazier; I think we
stick to a very strong
structure. We go in
there with a few ideas,
and we bash it out, but
you do have to be
careful what you play in
there, you can play
live.
So
how did you come up with
your band name?
(laughs) Everybody asks
me that. I don't put too
much weight on names, I
not very good at them
either. I took it from
The Jam, from the album
The Gift which is my
favourite album. Not
that I feel we sound
anything like The Jam,
but just growing up i
listened to a lot of The
Jam. There is a song
called Justice is a Five
O'Clock Hero. It was a
quick thought process,
everybody was happy with
it so we just kept it.
Who does influence
you?
Personally Elvis
Costello and Joe Jackson
I think. From a live
perspective people like
The Who and The Clash,
but you can never
compare yourselves to
them because that would
be ridiculous. There is
a very delicate line.
I've heard the single, I
can hear many eras of
music in there
explain...
Well with Skin Deep (the
B-side), it kind of
reminds me which is very
embarrassing but it's a
slight parallel to The
Doors, I don't know why,
and the other parallel
is Hall & Oates, 'Maneater'
I guess. That's the
thing. I think when you
hear our songs, you
probably would hear
different genres and
it's only because we
listen to everything, I
try and take in as much
as I can. In the new
single 'White Girls' I
think it's the most
different song from all
the songs we play, I
think it's slightly
dancy. I had the title
before I wrote the song,
I just thought 'White
Girls' would be an
interesting title; maybe
it would just make
people listen to it.
Lyrically i was a bit
rude, slightly
provocative.
Is
it weird seeing your
video on MTV2 for the
first time?
Well it is for me, I
don't know about the
others. I don't like to
watch myself, I'm the
worst judge of my own
appearance. But not with
that video mainly
because it was a tour
video. Our friend came
on the road with us for
3 weeks and filmed it,
he basically filmed
wherever we were in
hotel, or little chef,
or on stage. So when I
watch it now I'm like
"oh there's Stoke", but
if it was a more showy
video like the 'White
Girls' video is, more
performance related I'd
feel a lot more awkward
about watching it. But
it's gotta be out there,
people have gotta see
it, so you gotta do it.
So
generally English and
American bands have very
different sounds, what
nationality do you
characterise yourselves
in?
I don't think
nationality plays a huge
part in it, my only
argument for that is
because you have English
people and Americans in
this band. I don't think
there are any rules when
you're writing, and
there should be because
if you're aiming for a
style, a genre or a type
of music then to a
certain degree you're
already fucked. You
gotta have room to play
what you wanna play.
Otherwise you're never
gonna be happy, and
you're never gonna be
original and you might
as well be in the
Sugarbabes or something.
You're never gonna have
your freedom, for me
there is no answer to a
question like that.
How was touring with The
Bravery? Wild parties
and groupies?
All I can say is every
night can be different.
One night you can be
throw out of your hotel
room which happened in
Liverpool, or one night
you can be stopped by
the cops which happened
in Brighton, they gave
me three points on my
license and fined me
£60! You don't have to
be in some room, smoking
crack.
So
do you have any more
recording planned?
Not at the moment, I
think for the moment
we've gotta see what
happens single wise.
Also signing wise, with
a worldwide deal, and if
that happens I think
we'll concentrate on
America as well because
we had a pretty good
following in New York,
and we obviously want to
see a lot more of
America. For the mean
time I think England
will see a few more
singles and B-sides
before we release an
album, that's the way
we're going to have to
do it financially. So
the short answer to that
is no (laughs), but we
are playing a fuck of a
lot.
What's next then?
I think ultimately we've
gotta get a proper deal,
up to this point we've
sorta been doing it on
our own. I don't think
it will stop is touring,
there might be a
European tour coming up,
but we can't do that
without label backing
us. We just gotta get
that sorted and then
we're just going to have
to play.
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